We have a piste that is surrounded by train ties (boards)which, when a boule or cochon touches, it "kills" the boule or cochon.

Here is the scenario:

Team-A's boule is shot, and lands an inch from the back boards of the piste. It is still "live" because it didn't touch the board.

Team-B shoots their boule, it hits Team-A's boule and knocks it to the back board.

Question1: Is Team-A's boule "dead"

Question2: If Team-B's boule follows right behind Team-A's boule when Team-A's boule hits the back board, are they both considered "dead boules?" (even if Team-A's boule may be 3 inches from the boards because Team-A's boule is still sitting there?

To start with, when using boards to stop the boule or the jack, it is always better to stretch a cord of 4 to 5 mm thickness at a distance of at least 30 cm before those boardings. Then it will always clear if a boule will be void or not. When touching very softly the boarding, or barely, it sometimes is very difficult to establish if the boule has touched that boarding or noy. The one says yes, the other says no. So, always use cords as boundary lines (in French: lignes de perte. To be dead, a boule or jack must have crossed completely the boundary line when viewed from directly above!

Than your question 1. Yes, team A's boule will be dead.

Question 2. If boule B sits to boule A in the case that boule A is touching the boarding and boule B doesn't, boule B is still valid. To avoid these situations, always stretch cords at a distance of at least 30 cm (12 inches) from the boarding. Then you never will have these problems!

Good luck and enjoy your game!

Jeffrey Widen wrote:
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We have a piste that is surrounded by train ties (boards)which, when a boule or cochon touches, it "kills" the boule or cochon.

Here is the scenario:

Team-A's boule is shot, and lands an inch from the back boards of the piste. It is still "live" because it didn't touch the board.

Team-B shoots their boule, it hits Team-A's boule and knocks it to the back board.

Question1: Is Team-A's boule "dead"

Question2: If Team-B's boule follows right behind Team-A's boule when Team-A's boule hits the back board, are they both considered "dead boules?" (even if Team-A's boule may be 3 inches from the boards because Team-A's boule is still sitting there?

Yes to question 1 and I would say no to question 2... but, unfortunately, that depends on the house rules.

The best way to avoid that kind of problems (it touched! No it did not!)is to install a dead-boule line. Install a rope or string about 30 cm from the board on the four sides of the piste. Anything crossing that line is easy to notice and is dead. Voilà! no more arguement.

Guy

Jeffrey Widen wrote:
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We have a piste that is surrounded by train ties (boards)which, when a boule or cochon touches, it "kills" the boule or cochon.

Here is the scenario:

Team-A's boule is shot, and lands an inch from the back boards of the piste. It is still "live" because it didn't touch the board.

Team-B shoots their boule, it hits Team-A's boule and knocks it to the back board.

Question1: Is Team-A's boule "dead"

Question2: If Team-B's boule follows right behind Team-A's boule when Team-A's boule hits the back board, are they both considered "dead boules?" (even if Team-A's boule may be 3 inches from the boards because Team-A's boule is still sitting there?

I appreciate your opinions with this matter. It happened at our piste just last week and could have caused quite an argument if there wasn't an independent viewer who saw which boules hit the boards.

One wonders if you could have a touch sensitive tape affixed to the insides of the boards, such that, when struck, it sets off a bell!

By lookin at this problem there is no dead boule line which can eliminate this problem. The dead boule line is usually a metre away from the back board all the back board is to stop the bouls from running away.

Question 1: Is yes the boule is dead because of the fact that it has touched the back board.

Question 2: Is a little harder but the way i would see it is that the second is also considered dead as well, because, considering the team A boule is dead it should be remove immediatly after it is dead so that other boules are being conjested near the dead boule line. It would be hard to take out team A's boules while team B's boules is still in movement, you can injure yourself.

I hope that this has been helpful for you.

Guy Therrien wrote:
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Yes to question 1 and I would say no to question 2... but, unfortunately, that depends on the house rules.

The best way to avoid that kind of problems (it touched! No it did not!)is to install a dead-boule line. Install a rope or string about 30 cm from the board on the four sides of the piste. Anything crossing that line is easy to notice and is dead. Voilà! no more arguement.

Guy

Jeffrey Widen wrote:
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We have a piste that is surrounded by train ties (boards)which, when a boule or cochon touches, it "kills" the boule or cochon.

Here is the scenario:

Team-A's boule is shot, and lands an inch from the back boards of the piste. It is still "live" because it didn't touch the board.

Team-B shoots their boule, it hits Team-A's boule and knocks it to the back board.

Question1: Is Team-A's boule "dead"

Question2: If Team-B's boule follows right behind Team-A's boule when Team-A's boule hits the back board, are they both considered "dead boules?" (even if Team-A's boule may be 3 inches from the boards because Team-A's boule is still sitting there?

However, the best resolution remains to install a dead line at 30 cm from the boardings. Actually, a boarding is an obstacle, so when a boule or cochonnet hits it, boules and cochonnet still are valid!

Jeff Widen wrote:
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I appreciate your opinions with this matter. It happened at our piste just last week and could have caused quite an argument if there wasn't an independent viewer who saw which boules hit the boards.

One wonders if you could have a touch sensitive tape affixed to the insides of the boards, such that, when struck, it sets off a bell!