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Posted by: Alec Stone Sweet (
) at 2006-04-20 21:49:58
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Dear Ben,
I do not know Mr. Butler. Indeed, to my knowledge, I have never met him. I have read that Mr. Butler has politely told you that he is not a spokesman for the FPUSA on the question that you raised. Your resposne has been to treat him with a disrespect that does not reflect well on you. Under most systems of politeness with which I am familiar, I should think that you owe Mr. Butler an apology.
I am not a spokesman for the FPUSA either; I do not hold office, nor do I wish to hold office. I do know how to read constitutions and statutes.
If I have correctly understood your question (allegation against the FPUSA), then you are indeed confused.
The cluster of FIPJP regulations relevant to transfers (Arts. 9, 10) does not contain the rule you assert. Here are the relevant rules:
1. A federation can license a non-national "on condition that the player works or resides" in that federation's territory. There is no time limitation.
2. A five year rule governs the following situation. A player who is a national of country A, but has transferred his license to country B (while keeping his country A nationality) can play for country A in the world championships. This is the case of one of the greatest players in the world, Claudy Weibel, who plays for Belgium but is licensed in France at Star Masters Club outside of Paris. Weibel transferred without delay, as per FIPJP regulations. If the player does indeed play for country A, while being licensed in country B, he may not play in the worlds for any other country except country A, for five years, unless he changes his nationality.
3. The FPUSA does not have a three year rule governing transfers of licenses from abroad to the USA. It requires only residency. This rule does not conflict with FIPJP regulations.
4. The FPUSA does have a three year rule governing non-nationals who wish to play in the world championship qualification tournament (WCQT). Art. VII.I.B of the by-laws stipulates that a non-citizen may play in the WCQT if s/he "has not been a member with any other Federation during the previous three years." This provision does not in itself conflict with FIPJP rules. That said, the next provision - to the extent that it would allow a non-citizen visa holder whose "domicile legal" is not the USA to play in the WCQT - is arguably FIPJP illegal and should be changed.
Alec Stone Sweet
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FPUSA/FIPJP Ben Wa 2006-03-31 16:18:19
FPUSA/FIPJP Jim Butler 2006-04-07 16:49:36
FPUSA/FIPJP Concerned Constituent 2006-04-09 00:36:03
FPUSA/FIPJP Jim Butler 2006-04-07 16:53:29
FPUSA/FIPJP Ben Wa 2006-04-08 15:59:31
FPUSA/FIPJP Jim Butler 2006-04-10 12:22:50
FPUSA/FIPJP Ben Wa 2006-04-10 17:43:08
An Answer to Ben Wa Alec Stone Sweet 2006-04-20 21:49:58
An Answer to Ben Wa John Prince 2006-04-25 14:11:09
Translation Jeff Widen 2006-04-25 22:09:16
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