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Posted by: Gary Jones (
) at 2007-09-21 08:05:56
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In leisure play, I would use Ray's approach of just putting the boules back where they were, if marked. I would even go one step farther and put them APPROXIMATELY where they were if unmarked.
For more formal play, I agree with Jeff's point that disqualification of the boule still to be played is more logical than disqualification of boules already played. Like him, I sometimes say, "I'll take the points on the ground", rather than risk playing a final boule in a hopeless situation.
I do find the original question interesting from a hypothetical point of view, however. Several rules articles can be referenced for support of various resoltions of the problem.
For example, Article 21 states that any boule accidentally displaced by a player is put back in its place if previously marked. Could you not argue that the displacement of the two point boules was "accidental"?
Then there's Article 24 which allows for temporary removal of boules when necessary for measuring. Didn't the problem posed say that there was a possible third point that needed measuring?
On the other hand, Article 26 determines that boules picked up before the agreements of points are dead. But I assume that both teams HAD agreed that the two boules picked up were points? Which would mean that they are NOT dead!?
Then there is the final, and probably most important, question of how to interpret Article 34, "Penalties of play". The article lists six penalties for non-obsevation of the rules ranging from just a warning to the complete disqualification of both teams in dispute. But it doesn't say which penalties apply to which infractions!
For example, the second penaly listed calls for , "Disqualification of the boule played or to be played." Does the use of the word "or" instead of the word "and" imply that someone (who?) must choose which boule to disqualify?
As you can see, I think there are many possible interpretations of the rules as written. It usually comes down to just good sportsmanship in leisure play.
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boules picked up before completion of end Joe Martin 2007-09-20 12:34:07
boules picked up before completion of end Ray Ager 2007-09-20 16:58:29
boules picked up before completion of end Jeff Widen 2007-09-20 17:21:00
boules picked up before completion of end Gary Jones 2007-09-21 08:05:56
boules picked up before completion of end Guy Therrien 2007-09-21 09:52:05
and what about the 60 second rule? Jeff Widen 2007-09-21 15:38:21
and what about the 60 second rule? Sheikh Ismail Sheikh Silan 2007-10-08 01:45:19
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