I am a newcomer into Bruxelles living here during the week. Since I am not here on weekends and since winter almost has arrived it is hard to find some contacts for playing petanque. So could anybody help me: Where are (if any) Boulodromes or other options to play in wintertime?

Just to say Thanks for the excellent report and photographes on Provence. IMHO Provence is THE place to play - it has such a history of petanque and the game is so well understood and appreciated. I think this came across well in the report. Well done guys.

I have been reading Petanque, the French Game of Boules, written by Garth Freeman. In it he states that most successful shooters tend to arch the boule as high as possible. I have tried this, and have found it very difficult to achieve a carreau. I am much better when I lower my arch. My question is this: Is Freeman correct, and if so, should I sacrifice my shooting ability while trying to learn the correct way?

You marked a boule. The boule is displaced. Should you not erase the previous mark since it is not relevant anymore. I know, the rule does not mention it!
Merry christmas to all petanque players,
Guy

Ingmar Ackermann wrote:I am a newcomer into Bruxelles living here during the week. Since I am not here on weekends and since winter almost has arrived it is hard to find some contacts for playing petanque. So could anybody help me: Where are (if any) Boulodromes or other options to play in wintertime?

you'll find some addresses here
http://users.swing.be/pegazes/
( adresse des clubs )

Under tactics, see the thread on carreau/coaching.

Guy


Loi Nguyen wrote:
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I have been reading Petanque, the French Game of Boules, written by Garth Freeman. In it he states that most successful shooters tend to arch the boule as high as possible. I have tried this, and have found it very difficult to achieve a carreau. I am much better when I lower my arch. My question is this: Is Freeman correct, and if so, should I sacrifice my shooting ability while trying to learn the correct way?

Guy...
Yeap.... you put down your balls and now you must play... do you pick them up or do you consider them as having been played. Rule says once they are on the playing surface that they can't be played. Don't wait for someone to write a rule to apply common sense. The distance between ears don't have to be between 6 and 10 meters.

john


guy therrien wrote:
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You marked a boule. The boule is displaced. Should you not erase the previous mark since it is not relevant anymore. I know, the rule does not mention it!
Merry christmas to all petanque players,
Guy

It is common sense to erase the mark that is no longer marking the position of the boule, it saves any confusion which mark is valid...

As for the other question that crept into this one - boule on the terrain will be considered as played by the umpire, best to put your boule off the terrain.

guy therrien wrote:
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You marked a boule. The boule is displaced. Should you not erase the previous mark since it is not relevant anymore. I know, the rule does not mention it!
Merry christmas to all petanque players,
Guy

It is common sense to erase the mark that is no longer marking the position of the boule, it saves any confusion which mark is valid...

As for the other question that crept into this one - boule on the terrain will be considered as played by the umpire, best to put your boule off the terrain.

guy therrien wrote:
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You marked a boule. The boule is displaced. Should you not erase the previous mark since it is not relevant anymore. I know, the rule does not mention it!
Merry christmas to all petanque players,
Guy

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Ingmar Ackermann wrote:I am a newcomer into Bruxelles living here during the week. Since I am not here on weekends and since winter almost has arrived it is hard to find some contacts for playing petanque. So could anybody help me: Where are (if any) Boulodromes or other options to play in wintertime?

you'll find some addresses here
http://users.swing.be/pegazes/
( adresse des clubs )

Try to Phone the next tel.number:09/2319334
thid is the number of the Flemish petanque federation(VLPS).They will give you some adresses and opening times off some clubs in Brussels.

Good Luck

I dont think you have to shoot very high. Then it will be very difficult to shoot direct at the boule. My theory is that you have to get a 45 degree arch. If you have this you dont have to use a lot of power and then the boule hit at the target, there is a much better chance for a carreau.

Guy Therrien wrote:
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Under tactics, see the thread on carreau/coaching.

Guy


Loi Nguyen wrote:
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I have been reading Petanque, the French Game of Boules, written by Garth Freeman. In it he states that most successful shooters tend to arch the boule as high as possible. I have tried this, and have found it very difficult to achieve a carreau. I am much better when I lower my arch. My question is this: Is Freeman correct, and if so, should I sacrifice my shooting ability while trying to learn the correct way?

What article of the rules says that «once the boules are on the playing surface» they can't be played? Are you inventing rules again?

Article 18 states in plain English « Once thrown», a boule may not be replayed.... Can't you read English? « Once thrown »!!!

If one player (captain if you want) states to the opponents that he is resting an unplayed ball on the ground in order to free his hands to effect a measurement, do you think that the opponents will consider that boule as having been played?

If any player or all of them for that matter, close to the circle have their boules on the playing surface will you say that these boules can't be played?

Besides, the thread was about marked boules, not boules on the terrain.

Don't wait for someone to write a rule to apply common sense you wrote.

May I reply: apply common sense before writing your own new rules.

Guy

John T wrote:
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Guy...
Yeap.... you put down your balls and now you must play... do you pick them up or do you consider them as having been played. Rule says once they are on the playing surface that they can't be played. Don't wait for someone to write a rule to apply common sense. The distance between ears don't have to be between 6 and 10 meters.

john


guy therrien wrote:
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You marked a boule. The boule is displaced. Should you not erase the previous mark since it is not relevant anymore. I know, the rule does not mention it!
Merry christmas to all petanque players,
Guy

Mike Pegg - International Umpire wrote:
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As for the other question that crept into this one - boule on the terrain will be considered as played by the umpire, best to put your boule off the terrain.

I got this one John.
Guy

You should arch the boule high enough to hit the target directly without too much effort. The most effective angle length-wise is 45 degrees, but it is rarely necessary to shoot that high - and the higher you shoot, the more difficult it is to shoot straight (this is a matter of technique, though). Also, very high shots tend to land more on top of the target, decreasing the chance of a carreau. Never shoot higher than 45 degrees, this would decrease both length and precision.

Kenneth Dreyer wrote:
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I dont think you have to shoot very high. Then it will be very difficult to shoot direct at the boule. My theory is that you have to get a 45 degree arch. If you have this you dont have to use a lot of power and then the boule hit at the target, there is a much better chance for a carreau.

Guy Therrien wrote:
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Under tactics, see the thread on carreau/coaching.

Guy


Loi Nguyen wrote:
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I have been reading Petanque, the French Game of Boules, written by Garth Freeman. In it he states that most successful shooters tend to arch the boule as high as possible. I have tried this, and have found it very difficult to achieve a carreau. I am much better when I lower my arch. My question is this: Is Freeman correct, and if so, should I sacrifice my shooting ability while trying to learn the correct way?

I know what 45 degrees from horizontal is, but I have difficulties seeing 45 degress length-wise. Could you explain please Erik.
TIA, Guy

Erik Jon-And wrote, in part:
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...The most effective angle length-wise is 45 degrees....