can you give me addresses of sites which talk about petanque with pictures,movies and tips for playing this fabulous sport?

Are there any rules governing swopping of boulles during a game? e.g swopping say, one stripes for three stripes or even swopping to a different mass boulle?

Many thanks

Mike

Do me a favour? I can't find the names of the French team for this year's WCs. I cannot connect via Compuserve to the FFPJP website, and only marginally to the FFPJP website. The FIPJP/FFPJP minitel sites are useless. Does Compuserve have a grudge against Wanadoo, or am I just ignorant?

Charles Clarke
Irish Petanque Association

What is the difference between Boules and Bocce?

What relationship do they have ?

I have played Boules all my life, know nothing about Bocce.

Thanks,

A.

The Brighton & Hove site www.pavilion.co.uk/petanque has photos and tips.

Happy Bouling

A good starting point for a petanque-surf is our directory Hotboule right here at petanque.org - with more than 180 links.

yours
Stig Bordsenius
petanque.org


Clément Bichel [] wrote:can you give me addresses of sites which talk about petanque with pictures,movies and tips for playing this fabulous sport?

Play petanque on line on www.trankila.com from the monday 7th may 2001...

DO not forget: www.trankila.com



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can you give me addresses of sites which talk about petanque with pictures,movies and tips for playing this fabulous sport?

You asked:
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Are there any rules governing swapping of boules during a game? e.g swapping say, one line for three lines or even swapping to a different weight of boule?

Mike:

The rule applies to changing boules which have been damaged and I believe it expect the player to get a new set of boules.

However, to allows the mixing of boules, where once you have started to play you have swapped a boule (damaged)and it has create a mixed set of boules. Do all three boules have to have the same identification numbers ??

Good Question.. Yes, I would also like an official ruling.

John

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What is the difference between Boules and Bocce?

What relationship do they have ?

I have played Boules all my life, know nothing about Bocce.

Thanks,

A.

Bocce is the Italian word for boules. So actually, it is the same, but in Italy there are two kinds of bocce: the game bocce that is the same as the French game 'boule lyonnaise' (nowadays 'sport-boules'), a game that is played with metal boules (in Australia it is called 'bocce-bowls'); the second game is 'raffa', that is played with plastic boules and with different rules. Raffa is also very often practized in the USA in many variations.

See also the descriptions of all games of boules that I made for petanque.org in the Worldboules section.

Thank you very much
Happy Bouling

Thank you very much for this address

john Tupper wrote, in part:

Do all three boules have to have the same identification numbers ??
Good Question.. Yes, I would also like an official ruling.

John, you already have your answer in article 4 of the official rules.

4 It is forbidden for any player to change boules or cochonnet during a game, except in the following cases:

(a) A boule or the cochonnet cannot be found after a search time limited to 5 minutes.

(b) in which case only the largest piece counts to mark the position. It is immediately replaced, after measuring if necessary, by a boule or cochonnet of diameter identical or similar to the broken one. From the following end, the player concerned may use a complete new set

From article 4, you cannot swapp one line for three lines or even to a different weight of boule just because you feel like doing it.

You can swapp a boule IF a boule cannot be found after a search time limited to 5 minutes.

You can swapp a boule IF A boule breaks.

Sub para (b) says that you MAY use a complete new set. BUT it does not forbids replacing ONLY the broken boule by a boule of diameter identical or similar to the broken one.

Guy

I asked International Umpire, Mike Pegg, for clarification on this point some time ago. His reply was that providing each boule meets the stated requirements in the rules, i.e. 7.05cm – 8cm, 650g – 800g, etc, any combination would be acceptable, there being nothing specific in the rules saying that each boule had to be the same.

I’m still curious to know whether or not this was the intention when the rules were originally drawn up. I suspect the assumption was that players would use a matching set of boules, but this was never made explicit.

Consequently, as a retailer, I always encourage players to buy at least 3 sets of boules, telling them there’s nothing in the rules to prevent them playing with odd boules J

Again, just curious: does anybody actually play with odd boules and if so, why?

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You asked:
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Are there any rules governing swapping of boules during a game? e.g swapping say, one line for three lines or even swapping to a different weight of boule?

Mike:

The rule applies to changing boules which have been damaged and I believe it expect the player to get a new set of boules.

However, to allows the mixing of boules, where once you have started to play you have swapped a boule (damaged)and it has create a mixed set of boules. Do all three boules have to have the same identification numbers ??

Good Question.. Yes, I would also like an official ruling.

John

Hi, Mike and John,
I don't know about the changing of boules in mid-game, I do know however that in the beginning of the game you may start with different boules, pattern, weight or size, it doesn't matter.
The advantage of this is that you can always have a boule that's good for tirring and for pointing.
It is however difficult to get use to a different boule every throw. You Decide

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Adam Jahiel wrote:
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What is the difference between Boules and Bocce?

What relationship do they have ?

I have played Boules all my life, know nothing about Bocce.

Thanks,

A.

Bocce is the Italian word for boules. So actually, it is the same, but in Italy there are two kinds of bocce: the game bocce that is the same as the French game 'boule lyonnaise' (nowadays 'sport-boules'), a game that is played with metal boules (in Australia it is called 'bocce-bowls'); the second game is 'raffa', that is played with plastic boules and with different rules. Raffa is also very often practized in the USA in many variations.

See also the descriptions of all games of boules that I made for petanque.org in the Worldboules section.

For Bocce there are 3 methods...Punta which you roll. Volo which you lob the boules into the air and Raffa where you roll the boules hard to knock either your opponents boules away from the pallino or the pallino away from your opponents boules. But bocce is played with either ceramic or resin boules.

Jac Verheul wrote:
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Adam Jahiel wrote:
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What is the difference between Boules and Bocce?

What relationship do they have ?

I have played Boules all my life, know nothing about Bocce.

Thanks,

A.

Bocce is the Italian word for boules. So actually, it is the same, but in Italy there are two kinds of bocce: the game bocce that is the same as the French game 'boule lyonnaise' (nowadays 'sport-boules'), a game that is played with metal boules (in Australia it is called 'bocce-bowls'); the second game is 'raffa', that is played with plastic boules and with different rules. Raffa is also very often practized in the USA in many variations.

See also the descriptions of all games of boules that I made for petanque.org in the Worldboules section.

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I asked International Umpire, Mike Pegg, for clarification on this point some time ago. His reply was that providing each boule meets the stated requirements in the rules, i.e. 7.05cm – 8cm, 650g – 800g, etc, any combination would be acceptable, there being nothing specific in the rules saying that each boule had to be the same.

I’m still curious to know whether or not this was the intention when the rules were originally drawn up. I suspect the assumption was that players would use a matching set of boules, but this was never made explicit.

Consequently, as a retailer, I always encourage players to buy at least 3 sets of boules, telling them there’s nothing in the rules to prevent them playing with odd boules J

Again, just curious: does anybody actually play with odd boules and if so, why?

When I play in doublets, I use one smaller but heavier boule (pointer's boule) and two larger/lighter boules (Shooter's boule) as I shoot more often than I point.
Guy

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Jac Verheul wrote:
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Adam Jahiel wrote:
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What is the difference between Boules and Bocce?

What relationship do they have ?

I have played Boules all my life, know nothing about Bocce.

Thanks,

A.

Bocce is the Italian word for boules. So actually, it is the same, but in Italy there are two kinds of bocce: the game bocce that is the same as the French game 'boule lyonnaise' (nowadays 'sport-boules'), a game that is played with metal boules (in Australia it is called 'bocce-bowls'); the second game is 'raffa', that is played with plastic boules and with different rules. Raffa is also very often practized in the USA in many variations.

See also the descriptions of all games of boules that I made for petanque.org in the Worldboules section.

Bocce is actually the Italian word for "kiss." It is the Italian version of petanque (depending on who you ask...that whole chicken/egg debate).

I had a strange thing happen two days ago playing in an open event. Not having a team to play with I was allocated to a pair that needed another to form a triplet. Half way through the competition the pair I was playing with decided to swap boule with each other, therefore each was playing with boule of a different weight, the opposition said it was OK because the boule being used were the same although in different hands. What do we think of that? Was that in fact OK?

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When I play in doublets, I use one smaller but heavier boule (pointer's boule) and two larger/lighter boules (Shooter's boule) as I shoot more often than I point.
Guy

Rule 4 does not make an exception for this situation.
Guy

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I had a strange thing happen two days ago playing in an open event. Not having a team to play with I was allocated to a pair that needed another to form a triplet. Half way through the competition the pair I was playing with decided to swap boule with each other, therefore each was playing with boule of a different weight, the opposition said it was OK because the boule being used were the same although in different hands. What do we think of that? Was that in fact OK?

guy therrien wrote:
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When I play in doublets, I use one smaller but heavier boule (pointer's boule) and two larger/lighter boules (Shooter's boule) as I shoot more often than I point.
Guy